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State of the union

All right everyone. I wanted to wait to have this discussion until, well, things settled down and I could come to terms with the way things are headed. I'm sure I don't need to repeat all that has gone on--the mass replurks/reposting of all the dirt people have dug up in past weeks have surely gotten to you, so all that will lay right where it is.

What I'm more concerned about is making you all happy. As you may have noticed, I have changed the layout of the main comm and this one to something that isn't affected by the change in comment style. We'll just have to be careful with miles-long threads since...if I remember correctly, they do end up breaking things after a certain point, but I can't remember how many it takes. If I could somehow crosspost everything--comments, entries, you name it--to both LiveJournal and Dreamwidth, I would so people who wish to migrate to Dreamwidth can and those who wish to remain with LiveJournal can all play together in the same game but use the commenting platform of their own choosing. And who knows, maybe that might be possible someday. But as things stand, it's not likely to happen any time soon.

So where does that leave us? Dreamwidth already has its community import thing set up--for paid accounts. If we do decide to move the game to Dreamwidth, I'm only going to do so once the community import option is free. I can't afford to buy paid accounts, and I certainly cannot condone spending money for a paid mod account just for a one-time import. It's a waste, especially when the game won't properly start until May 12th. Thankfully, we do have a few months before then, and at the rate everything has changed, who knows when that option will crop up.

What to do until then? Well, like I mentioned above, I did change the style to something that won't kill everyone's eyes. It's a bit easier than getting coding that'll make things all plain in a layout I'm not thrilled about anyway. (I had another one chosen that was more appropriate, but did not like the font it used.) The planned post for December never did happen, and I'm really, really sorry about that. I'm sure I'm not the only one whose tagging drive died during all the drama at the end of the month... But what I'm thinking is giving it another go next weekend (so like Jan 13/14) and keeping it just us--and not just those whose characters decided to stay behind, but all of the characters who were in the game last season. So it's sort of like a 4th wall, but not quite.

The proper 4th wall that I want to do in the future will be set in March sometime and that will be open to everyone and anyone. Plus, I'm planning on making it a canon 4th wall event like I did last summer so any new characters who come in will have established CR with those already in the game. This way, we get people interested a month before apps/reserves open--and the app form is going to change a bit, but not too drastically--and gives them more time to write and all that fun stuff.

Now that I've laid all of that out, I'm going to ask what you all want to do. I know Luministi isn't the only game that most of its members are in, myself included, so I can definitely understand if you want to move/stay because other games are moving/have moved/are staying. Hell, I'm willing to even run the game on both sites if that's what it'll take to keep everyone happy with their site of choice. The game is small enough that I could do that. It'll be a shared membership (like, only one Sophie, only one Ten. No duplicates), and I'll make weekly updates in the OOC comms about things going on in each respective platform. (And hopefully, the commenting style in the Expressive layout and such will remain good.) Also, if we do wish to move and the community import option still isn't free by the time the game should open? We can always leave the LiveJournal version as an archive and I'll add a thorough game summary page to archive everything we've done so we can go back and reference things.

Trust me. You'll want that for what lies ahead of us for the third and last season.

So what do you guys think? I really need everyone's opinion. Please spread this to every member listed in the contact page if you think they might have missed it.

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Frankly I have no idea what this "dirt" is and all I know is that the comment style changed and everyone is shitting themselves over it. I'm assuming there's more to it than that but I haven't really cared enough to look into it since I don't find it inconvenient at all.

Therefore; my answer is going to be mostly useless because I can honestly say that I don't care whether we stay on LJ or move to DW, since no matter what the option is I'll follow you ~~until you love me~~~.

The dirt is on LiveJournal itself and its customer service. It's changed hands recently, and the people who are now in charge don't seem to terribly care about their userbase. Some LJ people who are in charge have been douchebags in several different ways, and a lot of RP has decided they don't want to deal with it any more and don't want to give the site any more money. This is the real reason why games are moving, though the layout doesn't help.

If you want more deets, I can try to scrounge things back up. I just didn't want to bombard you with all of it because I'm not trying to be all "LJ IS BAD AWFUL EVIL," I'm just trying to explain. XD

Oh, it switched ownership again? I hadn't heard that. Last I knew, there was some dispute between the Russian side of LJ and the English speaking side, where the Russian side tended to accuse the English speakers of being whiny trolls which seemed to greatly influence staff decisions/opinions.

I... would like to pack up and move to Dreamwidth. Everything I've seen about them proves that they care about more than just the business and traffic (and at least they actually care about that). They actually give a damn about their userbase, and they've been unbelievably flexible and embracing. Not to mention that overall they've just been acting like a grade A class act.

Honestly, I will follow the game wherever it does. Luministi has been the only stable game I've been in and it's Soraface's home. If it stays on LJ, I'll make do with the layouts. If it moves to Dreamwidth, I will be endlessly happy. If you decide to create a mirror game, I'll probably play on both. XD But my vote is for moving, because I would like to be able to wave LJ good-bye (aside from using LJ as an archive as you suggested should importing not be free by then, but considering the way Dreamwidth has been moving, it's very likely that it will be).

Okay, have a thought-dump:

Normally, I would be afraid of moving a game so tiny. I have seen games that die completely once they move platforms, and it always makes me sad. However, with y'all? Holy shit, I'm 99.99999% sure we're not gonna die out if we jump ship and move over. Because we are just that awesome. Have I mentioned I love you guys? Because I do. ♥ ... Anyway.

The only thing that actively pisses me off right now about LJ is this bullshit with turning on auto-payments without warning. I just got smacked with two charges that I'm currently trying to get removed. Everything else... well. I'm not happy with LJ personally, but I care more about having fun with my friends through my favorite hobby than I do about whatever LJ decides to fuck up.

So really, I just want to 'play with my friends. I have things I'm doing on both DW and LJ, and I'm pretty sure it's going to continue to be that way, at least for a good, long while, if not permanently in my RPing career. So really, whatever happens to this game? I'll be here. Dude, you couldn't pay me to leave this game. Seriously.

I will say that if I had to pick between moving and staying - that is, if "I don't care, I love everything" isn't a valid answer - my vote is to jump ship. But in the end? I can do whatever makes the majority of the game happy.

Also, let it be known: this is not the end to the changes LJ plans to make. Even though I have been known to roll with punches, I know others are not so keen on that idea. So even if you aren't upset with the shittacular attitude of the people in charge at LJ, if you're still miffed by things changing, just know it's going to keep changing. I guess that's the nature of the internet these days?

So, with all of that said... tl;dr: I will follow this game. If it were up to me, we'd move, but in the long run I honestly would be happy with whatever. You won't lose me, I promise. ♥

When it started out, I was a lot more irritated with the bad treatment of the customers than anything. A few months ago, there were those privacy glitches that LJ totally shrugged off and diminished, to the point of actually saying things that were not true. I let most of my paid accounts expire then, but then I decided to give LJ another chance. Then this happened, and I decided I liked DW. But the comment pages, I thought, weren't personally a problem, though I knew they were impossible to load on the computers of some and prone to causing headaches for others.

Then, I went back to look at an old thread in the new style comments. I was fine for a little, but the more I read, the more my eyes began to sting. I felt a headache start coming on, and I had to do some workarounds and style-mine.

I know I haven't been in this game in a while, and I don't know if I'll be in a place where I can come back, but I do know it would make me much happier, if I did decide to come back, on DW. I do understand the hassle (hell, since RS is probably going to make the move, I really do, Jchan) but I don't know how much I can RP on LJ anymore, no matter how much I want to.

I'll go wherever the people in the game want to. I don't play my Luministi character(s?) anywhere else, so for me it makes sense to stay on LJ because I lose paid options and icons otherwise. But I'm sure that's not the case for the majority, so I would say do whatever's necessary to keep the game going as before. I'm not sure how mirror sites would work, but so far I get the impression that everyone would be willing to stay or move as decided, so it seems like it wouldn't be necessary?

I am cool with whatever. I'm moving my money to DW though.

My preferences are leaning towards Dreamwidth, since out of my other two games one is possibly moving (eyes ficciones 's comment above) and the other will be over there by the end of the month.

That said, if people prefer to stay here for the last season I'll stick around too. ilu guys and this game too much not to.

Edited 2012-01-05 06:09 (UTC)

In short, I'll follow the game wherever it goes :3
But I'm set to move to DW (I even made an account for Fuu over there even though I only play her in this game o.o)

Oh hey, look what's in today's DW newsletter:

"We also should also be able to lift the restriction that only paid accounts or paid communities can use the community importer in another week or so, once we're fully satisfied with the optimizations we've made -- stay tuned there."

I'd prefer to go, but I'll be sticking with Luministi however things go.

I am a little late (free time? Psht. I have not yet learned how to use it effectively), but since I got busy and couldn't play, my say is probably fairly weak. ^^; If you guys do move, I will follow if allowed!

Your say still does matter ♥ I still have you and Ari in the comms and such so you guys still can play and all~

I'd like to start playing again! I'm just... not sure where to start. ^^;;; I don't suppose you could point me in the right direction...?

Well, right now, the game is in the off-season, so it's technically on hiatus. HOWEVER! Since we're moving and since I have a couple off-season activities planned, there's going to be a new entry tomorrow over at the Dreamwidth version of Luministi!

But to get you started from that point, we'll say that Flynn was sent home at the end and the CAT went home with him. (There is more stuff from the end of the season that can be found here!) It covers what happens regarding memories in the town and such, and that should help for future things.

As for the game proper, it'll begin again in earnest in May, but there is a canon fourth wall coming up in March, which will give you more chances to build CR even with those who might not be in the game yet.

Hopefully this helps!

This helps tremendously! Ari actually snagged me Flynn's journal on dreamwidth a little while ago and I've been absently uploading all my icons today and setting the journal up...

I will check out all of the things you directed me to! Will there be opportunity to play in the off-season stuff, or should I sit tight until the fourth wall event? ^^

Awww yeah!

You'll be able to, actually! This one for tomorrow will be open to everyone still in the comm, and you still are, so~

Hurray! ^^;;; Oh gosh. I need to watch Tangled five more times before tomorrow...! *prepares!*

*believes in you!!!*

♥ !!!

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